Since there was a small discussion after I mentioned it in the worst tasting supplement thread about how bad its effects were I thought I would finally write up the post I’ve been meaning to make about it.
It currently sits at under a 6 on bodybuilding.com, Something I didn’t think was possible without killing someone.
So lets start off with the ingredients, Cutler nutrition is a side division of BPI sports. As you know BPI sports is know for well dosed transparent products with fairly standard ingredients.
So legend pro sits at a rather heavy(for BPI) 10 gram dose. Long story short blend one is choline and a choline breakdown inhibitor in the form of an obsurce extremely poisonous plant, off to a great start.
Blend 2 has every non exotic stimulant I can think of save theacrine, some antioxidants and dandiloin root extract.
Blend 3 has antioxidants, glycerol lactate inosine and some taurine, this blend is likely why it has the texture of corse sand.
Blend 4 is a decent dose of carnitine and GBB which increases carnitine production, first product I’ve seen use this.
So why in short dose it have such terrible reviews?
Well first its flavor is god awful, featuring a weak blueberry and a bad overly long lingering artificial lemon flavor
The texture is similarly terrible due to the glycerol lactate, a ingredient that I strongly oppose in any product.
Finally we get to the main issue, it has a huge number of stimulants, a diuretic, niacin and a unstandardised extract of yohimbe bark.
This give it a feeling best described as chemical torture.
First off the only thing they have to smooth the edge on the stimulants is a micro-dose of gaba, which isn’t even that effective at a good dose.
Second off yohimbe is like adding high explosive to a firework show, if you do it right it can be awesome, if not you are going to put someone in the hospital. With that in mind
Use Isolated Alkaloids.
Yohimbe is too sensitive a compound minor differences in extracts can massively change the effects of a product, so find which alkaloids out of it give you the effect you want and tweek it as needed, its a tiny bit more expensive but that is the price you pay for using yohimbe in your product.
Third off keep in mind how each ingredient interacts niacin and dandelion root extract are good ingredients but they can be unpleasant with the itchy flush, or the sweating, need to pee and the hypersalivation they cause. Don’t combine a ton of unpleasant ingredients if you have no way to deal with the effects, This product really needed either L theanine or some sort of adatogen if it wanted this level of stimulants.
To summarize Jay cutler’s legend is a interesting product killed by poor flavor, bad formulation, and yohimbe.