i did ask about several supps and experiences but got no response.
last one was about mesomorph without dmaa and dna dispatch.
massmax still interests me.
@blongo804 ran Massmax and made some nice gains, but he was also on a surplus.
DNA Dispatch- Too expensive for me
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Speaking of “natty anabolics,” I really want Boom Stick to go on a BOGO. No way am I paying that for a month’s worth, but for two, I think it’d be fun, if just for the aggression and libido boost.
Anyone tried it?
It might help to make a new thread asking about them specifically, since only a few people actively follow this one I think.
I too would like to see more picture/videos btw, not out of disbelief or disrepect but because you have given some interesting advice and I am curious how its worked for you/what you look like after applying that.
dna dispatch is basically an add-on to a preworkout, a general health supplement with effects on various neurotransmitter systems, an endurance, performance and pain tolerance, euphoria inducing potentiator, anxiolytics potentiator, nutrient partitioner etc.
it would improve stimulants, complement antidepressants and anxiolytics and make a great combination with pterostilbene and pomegranate extract. alcar, pteropure, pomella and dmaa free mesomorph would be something that can be taken in the morning every day, meso possibly at half a scoop on non workout days and optimize metabolic processes all day and in the long run.
imagine walking out of the gym feeling recovered. no more cns taxing for fake strength but actually feeling healthier, having more work capacity, less need for sleep, wanting to train twice a day because now training actually enhances energy. all that can happen with the opposite of what bodybuilders do. take aas like tren and take hgh leading to more igf-1 which accelerates aging, causes acne, potentially cancer, despite the PEDs one can still get fat, aromatase inhibitors and t3 are not so bad, eca,clen etc. just horrible. essentially one may at a given point of time be able to movemassive weights but endurance is shot, neurochemistry dysbalanced and accelerated cell division causes local and systemic inflammation.
additionally the consumption of meat is certainly not healthy. i can see wether someone eats a good diet or not and how many bodybuilders have good skin? no ethics, morals, just that lots of meat consumption is visible to me. of course vegetarians on a horrible diet are not healthy either.
as for natty anabolics. 100mg forskolin per day are quite effective. rarely seen due to cost.
i can see if i find my camera and buy some batteries, for the scale too and take measurements, weight and post some progress pics. videos would be boring as i do not have any equipment at home for bench rows, weighted pullups or some crazy dual plate loaded machines. i could try to do sort of a mini-log/blog for those who are interested.
ideally i could formulate for a company and receive those supps in return (pretty cheap employee…lol). if someone is willing to produce what i suggest then people could try and see and i can use my wn stuff. even being rich some ingredients aren’t readily available (so just bc someone can buy 10 popular supps does not mean they will make sense).
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Thanks! The blog sounds interesting.
Ive ran a lot over my years, and have basically got nothing out of all of them.
When I have kept dietary needs, and training exactly the same and added the natty anabolic (no skewing of my nutrition or any other varaibles) the effects were minimal .
For the price any natty anabolic is a very hard buy especially when they are around 40-50-60$ a bottle.
You are better off buying the real stuff for the same price if not cheaper.
For most they are better off investing in some more whey protein or essentials and increasing their intake instead of thinking a pill will get the job done.
Thats just my 2 cents. Ive seen a lot of logs on Vector, Massacre and a bunch of others that are new out there in the market, a lot of them don’t have that much merit out of them. But again everyone will vary. The ones that have seen progress are the ones that are adjusting their nutrition over 400-1000 calories during their log. So it is impossible to say how much the product truly did and how much the nutrition played way to gains and increasing their caloric surplus.
what if adding carbs is making the product work? when adding 1000 calories in the form of carbs and losing bf while gaining muscle then it is obviously the product.
hence why ampk activation will improve body composition. consuming a lot more nutrients and having much more energy for workouts will lead to progress, done right i actually ended up eating myself leaner. the more i ate, the leaner i got and even gained weight while losing fat can you imagine gaining 1kg (2.2 pounds) while losing 2kg fat? thats a gain of 3kg muscle (6.6lbs) in 3 months and simultaneous fatloss in the single digits on 5000calories.
so i doubt vector will do much and massacr3 did not impress me but gynostemma, trans-tiliroside, pteropure, pomella, agmatine, banaba, nitrates all at ideal dosages will certainly not be just barely noticeable.
i would do a log if a company sponsored me a worthwhile product combination. just one product would be detrimental as i normally take many more so if i stop those in exchange for one of course results will not be present.
btw myokem alphadex is stronger than arimidex and on par with aromasin. it has 200mg acacetin which outperforms arimidex, tracheloside, brassaiopsis and mangosteen. best AI i have ever taken.
Check out what I just found. Swansonvitamins is having a BOGO + 25% off sale (ends today). These are “Glucohelp” extract, 18% corosolic acid extract versus the 2%.
$6.74 for 120 1.33 mg softgels.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-glucohelp-1-33-mg-std-to-18-60-sgels
corosolic acid at this dose reduces ursolic acid and tannins and is less effective than a 1% or 12:1 extract.
i take 700mg banaba twice daily standardized for corosolic, ursolic acid and tannins.
the supp is dedicated iG-ONE and has 50 capsules of 350mg banaba and 150mg gymnema for 20 euros (24 dollars). i take 2 caps twice daily atm. after a dose a meal of 1200-1500 calories and 150+g carbs will keep me full for about 2 hours.
no other nutrient partitioners atm.
I am inclined to believe Soul. I would go with a banaba leaf extract with a higher dosage, lower corosolic acid.
I am kind of amazed a company made a product with 1.33 mg of extract. It seems frankly baffling, I mean it is 6$, but I’ve kind of learned swanson is cheap for a reason.
The GlucoHelp isn’t a Swanson product. Seems to have two clinical studies behind it, too.
I know, but swanson in general sells either cheap products at cheap prices, or moderately price products at expensive prices.
I would still go with a 1% extract at a high dose over less then 2 mg of an 18%.
The only reason I could see this being better is for people who can’t swallow a pill larger then an eraser head.
Yeah, they can be hit and miss. I’ve been buying less and less from them lately, but sometimes they have screamin’ deals on good stuff. I went ahead and ordered both the 2% and the GlucoHelp. Granted, I have to take 8 of these 2% ones to get 480 mg.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-superior-herbs-high-potency-banaba-extract-2-corosolic-acid-60-mg-90-caps
so what is a really special product gaspari made? except detonate? i honestly do not know the old stuff like first SP and plasmajet for example.
Therefore…‘less’ Bang for your buck?
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