Looking for advice on stim free fat burners

Hey guys!

Since I do not want to take anything risky, and since I am not entirely sure on what to look for, here is my concern:

I live in Argentina (I have to order products with 10 days in advance) and my current stim free fat burner is running out (Quadralean 2.0). I don’t want to add more caffeine or stimulants to my daily basis, because I’m currently in the 4th serving of my pre (M2)

I’m trying to low my bf % in a reasonable way, doing some recomp.

Do you guys know any stim free fat burner that is safe and sound?

I recently looked at the formula of Transparent Labs stim free fat burner and it seems solid, what do you think?

Thanks and greetings from Buenos Aires!

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Most fat burner ingredients are stimulatory by nature, so it’s slim-pickings for non stim options. I don’t personally feel any difference for non stim fat burners, but from checking labels, I would say Pyretic from Primeval Labs is a solid call. Have you considered maybe a nutrient partitioner/GDA?

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I’ve never used nutrient partitioners or GDA, but they seem effective from what I had read about them. Which would you recommend?

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Out of my wheelhouse, I’m sure @TheSolution or others can help. GlycoPhase is a good one I believe, as well as Adapt from Outbreak

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Forskolin 95 at 50-100mg is worth the money IMO
Quadralean or whatever from RSP is underdosed garbage.

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Does forskolin have any side effects? Thanks!

improved fastloss improve cAMP levels, maybe slight stomach discomfort while using 50-100mg

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Thank you!

I like PEScience Shift. Myoblox’s Rubix is also something that I respond well with.

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SNS Reduce XT is worth looking into

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Forskolin is great, but may jack up the stomach.

I also like ginger and grains of paradise – but it may give heartburn :fire:

Like Matt said, PEScience Shift has both of those, but note that it’s not stimulant-free – it has synephrine inside from the citrus aurantium. Still a super cool formula though.

As for glucose disposal agents, I think everyone should at least mess around with berberine at the bare minimum.

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Agree on the Berberine. I would throw in banaba, too, for a GDA. What I like about these two is that you only have to take them before meals versus daily. I think others like hesperidin and gynostemma need to be taken daily to be effective.

Careful if you are already low carb (e.g. keto), and take those; they can make you go hypoglycemic pretty quick (at least did for me).

EDIT: I also recommend green tea extract (50% EGCG). It will have trace caffeine in it (< 5 mg) in a 500 mg dose.

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Yeah but so what – if you’re fat-adapted? Ketones should rise in that case, as you’re not “needing” that much glucose anymore anyway. Perhaps we shall test :slight_smile:

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Folks can experience a drop on blood sugar along with the associated symptoms when keto-adapted (at least in the keto/biohacking podcasts I’ve been following).

The time when I’m pretty sure I experienced hypoglycemia on keto when I was taking berberine/banaba before a carb-filled pot luck. I tried to take it 30 minutes before, but I ended up not eating until after about an hour or so. I’d say about 45 min in, I suddenly got a headache, felt tired/sickly. Felt better as soon as I got some chips and dip in me :smiley:. I didn’t have glucose test strips at the time, otherwise I would have verified.

I would be totally up for an experiment!

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If your fat % is high (20% and up) then Evomuse epitome. If lower then Evomuse topical fat burners.
Forskolin is good. specially if you are already at quite low fat%.