Maybe this is the old man in me coming out - but Gameday is already at 350MG Of caffeine and is going to introduce a ‘more stimulant focused’ version? Where are the folks that keep the stims low and focus on performance (speaking as a guy that did not grow up on energy drinks):
Question for folks on Nutrex…is it ‘Abol’ or ‘Anabol’?
*And yes I’ve contacted them about it. The ‘chat’ response was that Abol is short for Anabol. The more you know.
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Transparent Labs has launched (dropped? introduced?) a Nootropic:
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I’d say 90% of the PWOs on the market currently are “lower stim performance-focused” (note that stimulants increase performance). In like, 2007 things were different and getting as close as possible to amphetamines was the expectation of a PWO, but the market has changed.
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I’m thinking in the 300MG caffeine or lower range…realizing that you can have 200 MG of caffeine + Other stims and produce the same result.
Yeah, almost every single modern pre is 300mg or less, and very few even utilize additional stimulants. Alpha GPC and other noots aren’t stimulants, the only other actual stims that really see play are theacrine and dynamine, and I’d say they’re on the more niche side.
RIP to hordenine btw, free my man
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Which ones? Core Fury is 375; Ruthless is 390; FullBlitz is 335; Ryse Blackout is 400…
I like Ghost which is 205 and Ryse Core which is 275…other than that…most are over that or am I missing some?
I loved me a hefty dose of hordenine!
1 scoop fullblitz + 1 scoop vasoblitz = 170mg
Thats the play 
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@SteelerBill13 to your point… Guys like Kris Gethin and John Meadows found the performance sweet spot range at 150mg - 275mg. I very much found myself agreeing with them after trying their product and knowing that they personally went through the trial and error. It’s part of the reason why I love C4 energy.
Great point. That seems to be it for me…most recently Ryse Core (275) has worked well…
I don’t track the total amount of caffeine I ingest per day but I do have coffee with breakfast (1/2 to 1 cup) prior to training…And hate the ‘full body aches’ that come shortly after ingesting a pre with a lot of caffeine.
Posted that 2 days ago 
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Ah, missed it, sorry.
Consider it an echoing of my excitement – Ben’s been developing this for a while to try and make something super high-quality.
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Seems pretty meh for nearly $1.50/serving. I mean, everything in there is dosed well, except that it’s really only 80mg of actual PS, but still, it seems sort of pricey. But I guess maybe it’s just pricey on their site and cheaper elsewhere?
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I’m pretty sure that there’s like literal mountains of research showing that 3-5 mg/kg caffeine is the “sweet spot” for performance enhancement. That’s ~270-450mg for a ~200lb person, or ~200-340mg for a ~150lb preson. There’s even some arguments for higher doses, but that’s more of a niche use and sometimes isn’t tolerated super well (overly stimulating).
Of course, you do you, and individual tolerance is a key factor here, but I wouldn’t say that they actually “found” some new best sweet spot.
I believe he was speaking personally, judging by the rest of his comment.
Highly doubt he is insinuating it’s the sweet spot for everyone.
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Ghost Update
Ghost testing 9 different lots of Nutter Butter Protein - 1 Minute
Ghost Glow - 2:35 – Leak of a 3rd flavor
New Apparel of the Month - 3 Minute
3rd flavor Ghost Glow - 3:45 Minute (Lime or Lemon Lime due to Yellow color)
Guava Berry Greens - 5:15 Minute
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