Let's talk about cholesterol

Let's talk about cholesterol
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#41

Sorry I missed the memo on this, why do you need cholesterol in your diet?


#42

Let’s not get into another cholesterol debate…LOL


#43

Sorry, the sciencey part of me won’t let me not question statements like that. :stuck_out_tongue:


#44

That’s fine but science also proves genetics is the key factor in high and low cholesterol levels.


#45

I have yet to see proof of that being the case for most people.
Regardless lowering dietary cholesterol intake does lower blood cholesterol.


#46

The claim he made is that cholesterol is the substrate by which your body produces all of its endogenous hormones (including testosterone, adrenal hormones, and even vitamin D). Let’s not turn this article into a stupid debate about HDL vs LDL vs dietary cholesterol. Cholesterol is essential in your body, but isn’t an essential nutrient, meaning sufficient quantities can be produced by the body with proper fat intake to make cholesterol consumption technically unnecessary.

But a lot of people want more hormone precursor in their bodies cuz broscience. A lot of people don’t cuz correlation to heart disease. Not sure about this part of the science, but I don’t think it relates to this article.


#47

I moved that thread here, but @Christianmelon is right - cholesterol-free interventions have been used and people weren’t dropping dead. The body adapts well. But it’s still beneficial.


#48

Whoa now I’m the one who said that. And my post is directly related to that article and its reference to cholesterol without getting into the weeds that this thread does. Bullshit moving my post here


#49

Ya I am going to have to agree, moving these post here was kind of bs, particularly the first one calling out the misinformation.
Requesting my first post and twenty’s be moved back. @Mike


#50

Alternative solution to be considered in the future: just delete @Brawn 's stupid posts if he changes the topic from the article to his fiery passion for the dietary cholesterol vs serum cholesterol debate.


#51

Oh, so I am stupid. Thanks for letting me know. EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT CHOLESTEROL IS TRUE. Sorry if you can’t accept facts.


#52

Explains my position
no it works like this
ok, do you have any evidence
My doctor said so
Well I can’t ask your doctor, and doctors can be wrong
No she’s like smart
Ok but that still isn’t evidence, could you give me a study or something?
Well I am going to trust my DOCTOR over a random forum user
That’s fine, but I can’t base what advice I give off of what a random forum user said his doctor told him
My position is still right, sorry you can’t accept facts

Its not that i’m against you being right, its that you keep making absolute statements in regards to health and then refuse to back any of it up with evidence, but then keep coming back and saying what I’m saying is wrong while still refusing to back any of it up, and you’re a moderator, I somewhat expect a higher level of discourse out of someone in a position of power.


#53

Well my bad. Everyone said let’s not turn this into a cholesterol argument, so I moved it to the cholesterol argument where we could discuss cholesterol-free interventions. It really had nothing to do with the post over there. But I’ll fix the old post with a strikethrough


#54

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391

PDF:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391?needAccess=true

Statins are useless. LDL-C is not the problem.

We slowly get closer to the truth…