So for the people who missed it nutrabio is going to release a 58 gram preworkout. This was briefly talked about in the new supplement thread.
Now as a starting point the current pre extreme is about 43 grams of actives, 15 of which is cluster dextrin
So as a starting point I asked him this.
Given his response here
We can assume it contains a significant amount, I myself am going to bet 20-25 grams of carbs, which lines up with their previous carb supplements and would be a step up from the 15 grams in the current preworkout. while still leaving room for more additions.
Other things we know is that it will not have exotic stims due to their design philosophy. I think there will be a bit of a bump but not a massive one, I figure a 10-25% chance of the caffeine being increase, but only a 5% of it going over 400 mg
Increase of carbs from 15 to 25
Increasing agmatine to 2 grams
Increasing nitrosigine to 1.5
Adding ingredients from fighter fuel ATP supplement or extreme nitric stack
5 grams D ribose is a likely candidate
1200 mg of L-aspratic acid and L alanine
Increasing creatine magna power
Adding arginine or orthinine akg from the nitric stack
Possibly acetyl L carnitine